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Would you buy another Cybershot?

Topic started on Apr 18, 2012 10:56 AM , last reply on Nov 8, 2012 12:38 PM

in Cameras and Photo Frames > Cybershot
gazz1e
gazz1e
18 posts since
Oct 3, 2011

It's been a while since I last visited this forum. It's sad to see that after months of users being unhappy about the firmware in the current batch of Cybershots (such as setting the level of compression, or lack of RAW), that Sony haven't addressed the issue. I expect they're not going to address the issue, and expect us to buy new hardware with the improved firmware.

 

I must admit my Cybershot HX7V has been sat in the back of the cupboard for a few months now. I find my iPhone 4s adequate for capturing adhoc photos and videos. To be brutely honest, I find see less compression artifacts on my iPhone photos that my Cybershot photos.

 

Based on your experience with Sony's Cybershot cameras, would you buy another Cybershot? I'm happy using my mobile, and if I had to buy another camera, I'd go with a company that invests in development of existing hardware, rather than expect users to buy a new camera for features that could easily be fixed in the firmware.

 

...expecting this post to get deleted by the moderators...


  • nikkilim
    161 posts since
    Feb 15, 2012
    Written on Apr 18, 2012 3:18 PM

    I would buy another one. An Iphone has only 2-3MP which is far from what cybershot offers. If you want a good qualtiy picture, you need to use cybershot. https://imagicon.info/cat/12-13/vmware_happy.gif


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  • gazz1e
    gazz1e
    18 posts since
    Oct 3, 2011
    Written on Apr 19, 2012 4:49 PM

    My iPhone has a 8MP camera and can do full 1080p video. Also with it being always connected to the Internet, sharing photos with friends and family is a breeze. You'd expect the photos on an iPhone (or Android) to be of lower quality, due to the lens being smaller, but I find Cybershots HX are lower quality based on the terrible compression Sony have inflicted on them.

     

    Thanks for your post though.


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  • Blencogo
    Blencogo
    12,807 posts since
    Dec 22, 2004
    Written on Apr 19, 2012 5:29 PM

    So does your iPhone shoot in RAW and have variable jpeg compression?

     



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  • gazz1e
    gazz1e
    18 posts since
    Oct 3, 2011
    Written on Apr 20, 2012 12:14 PM

    So does your iPhone shoot in RAW and have variable jpeg compression?

     

    No, but the phone's jpeg compression is at a level that doesn't introduce noticable artifacts. I'd expect a Cybershot Camera (that can only do one thing - take pictures) to have more control over photo settings like the compression level.


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  • badgerme
    14 posts since
    Jul 12, 2011
    Written on Apr 20, 2012 2:50 PM

    Hi,

     

    According to http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/specs.html the iPhone 4s does "HD (1080p) up to 30 frames per second". That's half what the HX9V does - up to 60fps.

     

    However, I'm not fussed about video so am very interested to hear that a phone outperforms a 'top of the range' camera. What I'd really like to see is some 'real world' comparison shots taken on the two devices - including both ends of their zoom range, and macro.

     

    How about posting some on the web somewhere like Picasa for us gazz1e?


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  • gazz1e
    gazz1e
    18 posts since
    Oct 3, 2011
    Written on Apr 20, 2012 5:01 PM

    I think the FPS on my HX7V is 25, as I'm in the UK. There's a few sample images @ http://www.johnchow.com/iphone-4s-video-and-photo-quality-test/


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  • badgerme
    14 posts since
    Jul 12, 2011
    Written on Apr 20, 2012 6:31 PM

    That link is just to iPhone samples - what I'd like to see is a comparison

     

    That is same shots taken with Sony Hx and with iPhone


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  • badgerme
    14 posts since
    Jul 12, 2011
    Written on Apr 20, 2012 6:59 PM

    Just remembed that http://www.imaging-resource.com/ has a comparison section and yes both 'culprits' are there.

     

    On a quick look, the iPhone is pretty good for a phone, but the images are noisy even at low iso, and the grey background in the macro is a rather nice purple/pink.

     

    Of course the iPhone has no zoom, etc

     

    I'll stick to using a camera for taking pictures, and a phone for making calls, but I do agree that it would be nice to have our wish list of firmware updates listened to.


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  • vegeta340
    1 posts since
    May 10, 2012
    Written on May 10, 2012 12:10 PM

    My Nokia N8 has compression settings I can disable compression at all, what's more I can record more than 30 minutes of movie and I have pause button during recording. software should be improved that's fact. Photos from 16MP Sony HX9V is about 4MB and from my Nokia N8  with 12MP is about 5-6MB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • badgerme
    14 posts since
    Jul 12, 2011
    Written on May 10, 2012 1:44 PM

    The N8 looks like another nice phone (pity it's not Android - I might even get one if it was)

     

    i don't think that anyone disagrees that control over the HX9V's compression level would be useful, but to me there's no comparison between any phone that I've seen and a half way decent compact camera.

     

     

    Your N8 does not shoot full HD video - only 720 not 1080

     

    No optical zoom, etc

     

    But, for a phone, it seems to be a decent bit of kit


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  • nostriel
    1 posts since
    May 14, 2012
    Written on May 15, 2012 12:00 AM

    I will not buy any Sony product EVER. The HX9V was the greatest scam they ever released with their 2Mb for 16 Mpixel compresion. All reviews omited this, and I thought to give it a try. But even my old 6Mp S3IS Cannon makes bigger files than this camera and, of couse better photos.

     

    The fact that a software limitation destroys the camera quality is the biggest proof of their hunger for money, and that they do not inovate anymore as they did, but just make magicians lousy tricks.


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  • badgerme
    14 posts since
    Jul 12, 2011
    Written on May 15, 2012 10:21 AM

    Hello Nostriel,

     

    I've got a Canon S3IS as well but I'm puzzled!

     

    jpeg files do vary in size depending on the content of the image of course, but  my experience is the reverse of yours regarding file size with the Canon giving mainly files around 2Mb and the Sony more around 4Mb.

     

    But is size everything?

     

    From reading reviews before my purchase, I was aware of what many refer to as the Sony's 'oil painting effect' image quality - this due to high levels of noise reduction in camera. This is non-adjustable - a software limitation that could be addressed by a firmware update.

     

     

    My point is that this camera performs just as I expected from reading on line reviews, for example in their review http://www.imaging-resource.com the list of 'cons' begins:

     

    Heavy noise suppression gives images a watercolor look

    Very little fine detail above ISO 800

    No control over NR levels

     

    For my useage this camera is good - but I am only looking at pics on a computer or HDTV plus occasional prints up to around 10x12"


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  • kmc2704
    kmc2704
    5 posts since
    Jun 6, 2012
    Written on Jun 6, 2012 1:50 AM

    THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM WHERE ALL COMMENTS SHOULD BE WELCOME AND NOT SELECTIVELY DELETED ....the only language Sony understands is the colour of OUR money. The answer is simple....do not make further purchases of Sony product ...they have lost me as a consumer, BIG time .


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  • kmc2704
    kmc2704
    5 posts since
    Jun 6, 2012
    Written on Sep 5, 2012 8:02 PM

    DONT BUY SONY PRODUCTS.....SONY ARE HAPPY TO GRAB UR MONEY ...I FEEL SO CHEATED OUT OF MY MONEY AS THE HX9V DOES NOT EVEN GIVE SATISFYING STILLS...AFTER ALL IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMPACT CAMERA YET IT CANT TAKE DECENT PICTURES....WASTE OF TIME AS ARE SONY SUPPORT...USELESS & POINTLESS !!

     

    WILL NEVER EVER BUY A SONY PRODUCT EVER AGAIN !!



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